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<img src="https://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?q=Gtp38r dyno" alt="Gtp38r dyno" />Gtp38r dyno. Built with the Garrett exclusive Ball Bearing Cartridge, the GTP38R provides unbeatable response, efficiency, and durability, especially at elevated boost levels. No tuning has been done to try to take advantage of the new found air volume. 1. 18 @ 111. 86mm (56 trim). It made 315rwhp and 650rwtq on a dynojet with load cell. The new KC38r. I will be sending the data sheets to Jody for his review. -Bullydog "mileage" chip *Matts tunes in 2 weeks*. 91mm 60. ). FMIC 2. For Ford fans, diesel performance really begins with the Power Stroke brand name. By: Search Advanced search Stage 1 Injectors - Turbo Package Deal. This will put you right at the 500RWHP mark with proper injectors! Turbo comes with . Hybrid performance injectors give more fuel and required less high pressure oil thanks to the hybrid plunger and barrel design of the injectors. #20 · Jul 7, 2009. In the 99-03 Powerstroke you will have to run a custom programmed chip to make the transition from split shot injection to the new single shot injection. Follow the journey of your preference, for more relevant information. Stock tires for now. So I am going to buy a gtp38r in a couple of weeks here and I have a few questions. If you don't tow much or have not ever "experienced" surge you probably don't need one. 96mm. #1 · Mar 1, 2006. 2000 F250, 7. 5-’97 Power Stroke, you’ll definitely need to scrap the mechanical lift pump in favor of an electric The Irate S366 Turbo kit is the PERFECT upgrade for any 7. Feb 21, 2019. stock turbo basic ts chip on level 3. Select G-Series, GT-Series, GTX-Series, GTW-Series GBC-Series and Wastegates. Once you make the resister wire you connect it from the AIH solenoid (where the AIH wire was connected)to ground. Testers have experience similar boost but with much lower Exhaust Back Pressure when compared to the gtp38r. 7. 15 nonwg, onlt 1. Inducer 65. Ideal for light to light towing and a hot street performance package. The (flameproof) resister is merely a type of resister as well as a carbon or a wire wound resister. #15 · Apr 8, 2005. 3 with 250cc hybrids running a stock GTP38R that put down 566hp and 1189 ft lbs at 34psi. 444-4D said: You are confused. #1 · Oct 31, 2015. We performed a few dyno runs with the stock wheel/housing configuration and achieved a maximum boost of 34 PSI and a best HP of 555 @ 2680 RPM. When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people, changed who can see it or it's been deleted. made 410 on level 6. (All values rated at 3500 RPM) Max Boost - 34 PSI. The 88mm GT compressor wheel provides 33% more flow than the stock 80mm wheel. GTP38R. If your EGT's were also higher than normal in stock tuning, then you would first suspect a leak somewhere. Reply Quote Like. 0) for increased low rpm boost. 84 housing. Being you have 175/0 injectors I suggest the . (unsure of power on other settings, it was a dyno day and only should of had one. 3/4. Garrett 38R 1. If you’re worried about smoke with an 80%, just don’t lug it. 40 which is at the efficiency limit of a GTP38R! As I discussed regarding a GTP38R vs dyno HP in posts #52 & #55 here Deff worth the money. Stage 1 injectors. 547 posts · Joined 2007. The results were immediate and impressive. With out a chip it won't do much. #3 · Mar 2, 2016. This is our version of the famous gtp38r but with a few tweaks kind of like a 38r on steroids. The 38r went with roller bearings and this aids with spool-up time. Dynoed 516 hp and 1121 tq on 4/24/10. 4269 posts · Joined 2012. . scheidt27 Discussion starter. 3 430rwhp. Results are with only a wheel change. $400 is way cheaper than a failed turbo and damaged 7. Yesterday and today the engine just quit running while driving down the road. Mileage, no change. Included in the kit: - Garrett GT28R turbo and manifold pre-assembled (only run 6 PSI) - Down pipe and gasket. Spool up is same to slightly better Below is a dyno graph taken at Power Hungry Performance on Jason's truck. :scuffy Search titles only. 10K views 28 replies 11 participants last post by Bobs 7. 3L Powerstroke with the Garrett 739619-5004S PowerMax GTP38R Turbocharger. 20mm inducer and a 67. 250cc 80% nozzle 460-530HP. This turbo will impress you at how well it runs! This Borg Warner 300sxe-style wheel is offered in three sizes to suite your performance goals: 68mm, 70mm, and 73mm. 3 Diesel! This is the FULL kit WITH turbo. Dynoed 520hp and 926tq on 5/23/09. 3L injectors need to see roughly 65 psi for optimum performance and longevity. The Turbo Thruster II GTP38 features a larger, ported compressor housing for increased flow and to control surging. gt40 series uses a turbine wheel of 77mm/68mm With the 4088 its matched to a 64. 33 posts · Joined 2003. 3L Powerstroke owner that wants to get more out of their truck. The turbine wheels are 100% drop-in, allowing you to add them to your next DIY turbo project. 0 housing would require even more airflow to generate adequate force on the shaft driving the compressor. 238cc 100% nozzle 465-550HP. 73 gears. 73mm exducer (79 trim). All this subject ever does is get Joe in here to start bashing the GTP38R. #1 · Sep 9, 2009 Just lookin for some info on the GTP38R. 85 and Inducer of 77. The flameproof resistor is the more durable of the three. This truck has 250/200 injectors, GTP38R, and PHP tuning. 8589 posts · Joined 2015. The truck was dyno'd in overdrive and made a max of 27psi. with all their help on this project so far, their injectors have been flawless! . #1 · Jan 30, 2012 Been reading about the gtp38r and some places are saying a 80 gain with a chip and exhaust from just a turbo upgrade i find that kinda hard to believe i can understand 25hp or so is there any truth to what they say ? im planning on picking up a stage 3 snow system in the next few days and maybe a 38r before i do my injectors As usual, all dyno runs were performed in 3rd Gear with the Torque Converter locked and 8000 Lbs of load on the dyno. 0 nonwg and the 1. #12 · Jan 18, 2010. Adrenaline hpop, 175/146s, gtp38r w/ 1. 504 posts · Joined 2008. 71mph on Da Juice My setup is a 250,000+ mile 2000 7. #5 · Dec 1, 2010. has more potential airflow due to the bigger 66mm wheel. electric fuel spearco intercooler for 6. 09 @ 102mph, #2 only;12. 3 Mar 27, 2014. #1 · Nov 10, 2013. 01 cclb f-350 srw-463hp/1025ftlbs PHP Dyno (extreme tune) leveled with 285's on 17'' XD Spy's Autometer gauges (boost, trans, egt, fuel) 4'' straight pipe DIY 6637 Powerstruck 160/30's Hydra-Powerstruck and Dan K tunes 38r CNCFab fuel & hpop lines Sam Wyse stage 2 trans. -Kris Powermax Turbo Upgrade for Ford Power Stroke1995. Jump to Latest Follow 599. yes, I do know that the 4" straight exhaust is important The Late 99-and newer setups can swap out to the GTP-38R and the manifold-compressor adaptor has provisions for the 3" intakes. A 30% typically will be a little cleaner at low rpm, but I love how an 80% runs. 3L Power Stroke. 5NA Stage1 Turbo kit : 6psi. 1999. Yeasterday I pulled the batter cables and drained the fuel bowl (thinking maybe water in fuel) Truck started and a ran about 100miles. 0l powerstrokes. 0, RR fuel system, 4" exhaust. Its interesting because on Full Force website the 238/100 is good for 480 1996 7. From what I've seen the 38R is a good turbo. I feel that I am leaving 50-60hp on the table somewhere, at least thats what I am getting from another site. This was with a 100hp Predator canned tune on the truck. 866 posts · Joined 2010. This my setup. -Warn hubs. You would need to get the whole Late 99-up setup, pedestal, exhaust collector, manifold-compressor adaptor, uppipes and a modified downpipe to be able to use a GTP38-R on a OBS. 3L, 6. but from what I've been reading it sounds like KC really has a nice product that may perform a bit better for my needs. Al in SoCal AFE Intake; Garrett 38R; DieselSite Turbine Jacket Garrett GTP38R turbo,turbomaster wastegate actuator i thought the stock compressor wheel was 58 MM, my H2 is a 62 MM, so why does the GTP38R advertise an 88MM wheel which they say is bigger than the 80MM stock wheel? TIm 2000 F-350 CC LB 4x4 6 spd diesel. 3L. Max EGT - 1400. At first glance, it is a glorified stock turbo - it has the same basic design. 3 the truck has a 4"lift on 35's and it already has a stage 2 afe intake 4"turbo back exhaust and a edge juice programmer with a stock transi was wanting to throw a gtp38r turbo and was wondering how much hp thatd throw me at and was thinking about getting . 47. -Traveling the Earth 300 ft at a time- . 15 Non-W/G housing, Stock compressor wheel (All values rated at 3500 RPM) Max Boost - 34 PSI; Max EBP - 45 PSI; Max EGT - 1300; Peak HP - 542 @ 2620 RPM; Peak TQ Nov 1, 2011. There is a larger Turbine wheel availible for the GTP38 with exducer of 69. I'm not a turbo expert (not even close), I have never even seen the BD Turbo Thruster 2 in real life, nor have I seen a performance graph. Choose your path. Your hp is around 400. This is a factory drop-in journal bearing turbocharger with a Borg Warner 300sxe Style 73mm turbine wheel with a 63mm billet compressor wheel for the Superduty late'99-03 model years. 250cc 30% not much gain over 238cc with 30%. Big shout out to Full Force Diesel Performance Inc. A. A custom chip with a good tow tune tuned to work with the 38r, I see your goals being met. Jump to Latest Follow. we did the dyno at No Limit Tuning and Design, He is suppose to be e-mailing the results along with all the data logging, when he does I will post it up. Also the 1. Compressor Wheel. Ideal for heavy towing and better economy. Peak HP - 555 @ 2680 RPM. 14mm 91. 84 vs 1. 5 F-250 Lariat 4x4 CC. Save Share. S. How to choose a turbo starts with horsepower and displacement. Turbine housings availible for GTP38 include the 1. The Comp Turbo TP38 utilizes a wheel similar to the Garrett GTP38R ball-bearing turbo (a popular turbo in the '991/2 to '03 7. Featuring an 88mm compressor wheel and a ported shroud housing, this drop-in replacement turbocharger delivers 35% more flow than your stock turbo, with improved compressor flow range and surge control. The turbine wheel on both turbos has a 76. Notable points from this configuration: Dyno Run - 04/17/2012 - GTP38R, 1. At the rpm you’ll be running, an Adrenaline, 185/80’s, good tuning, and 38R will be an animal. That is the biggest reason for installing. Peak TQ - 1116 @ 2625 RPM. 5-2003 7. 0 Litre Intercooler, Dp-Tuner 4 poisition chip 60-80 econo-120-140, Banks Six gun,PSC Ram Assist, Autometer Oil temp, Diff temp, Oil Pressure 862 posts · Joined 2008. The pump says made in china on it. 38r. Request information for your needs. 5 Ford F-250 7. 8/94 comp wheel That compared to the 38r which is a Comp:65. Corey's a great guy to deal with as well. I am running the Donaldson AIS intake, Banks 4" exhaust (including the muffler) with the "Power Elbow" (fancy EBPV delete), WW II compressor wheel, and PHP Hydra w/ standard tunes. The GTP38R Turbo. 0 trans cooler-Powerstop brakes-CCV-Gauges-Exhaust-AIS Intake-Kenwood sounds-. 73mm Based on those numbers and that the turbine wheel uses comp wheels that splits slightly smaller and larger than what the 38R is, this looks like the turbine wheel for the 38r. 20mm 67. Reply Like. ATS Stage 6 4R110. I attribute this to a lack of sufficient air flow through the turbine to drive the compressor. 00 A/R housing reduces exhaust back pressure, lowering exhaust gas Sbluke55. 3 on BDs dyno Tow pig 2000 F-250XLT EC/SB Tuned Exhaust Intake. 10 compared to the GTP38Rs 1. 0) flows a bit less it SHOULD still be capable of making Like a previous poster said, there are plenty more GTP38r's out there than there are TN turbos. The stock compressor wheel exducer is 80mm and the inducer is 59. The Garrett 739619-5004S New Ball Bearing PowerMax GTP38R Turbocharger is a must-have for any 1999. Otherwise, I have the ITP pre-pump mods (with "my" Napa pre-pump filter LOL), and the DFA RR kit. PHP Hydra. -DIY intake, Foil delete. Charles. Dyno Run - GTP38R, 1. Mods- 180/30 Full Force injectors, CNC Fabrication, LLC S2 hpop, 4 line feed kit, There was an immediate improvement in lower RPM spooling along with an improvement in overall performance. 3551 posts · Joined 2007. Ported shroud housing improves compressor flow range for surge control. It is going to spool up slower because it is a larger housing but won't be able to control the amount of boost because it is not wastegated. 0 W/G housing, Stock compressor wheel. 86mm/88mm Turbine: 76. Then we yanked the turbo and installed the new 38R Wicked Wheel. A 30K load is pretty hefty, and tuning will need to be spot on in order to keep the EGT's under control at that heavy of a load. The wicked wheel helps eliminate surge. tune 4 seems a bit faster then 3 to i just picked up a late model 99 7. 3l 4x4 PSD DI Short block, Ported Heads, Head studs, Over size valve springs, DI Push Rods, DI RR, GTP38R, GSL 392 fuel pump with 3/8 line feeding 238cc Injectors from Nate @ Unlimited Diesel and Tuning from Matt @ Gearhead Automotive Auto to ZF6 Completed 520hp and 926tq - 5/23/09 Dyno Sheet Incorporating all the high performance equipment in a superior performance package, this extreme package includes: an intercooler, blow off valve, and more. 3L, 6 speed, 33" tires, 3. Compressor Exducer 88. aggie said: 38r and stock injectors is a great combo. We have several customers running this setup, and i have ran it on my reg cab for the past year with great results. Van turbo/GTP38R hybrid. 73 gears, SuperCab, Long Box. If you’re upgrading the injectors on a ’94. 7/88 comp wheel and in the 4094 matched to a 67. I will go to the higher load rating 285/75r18's in the Toyo Open County MT's when I can. This turbo spools great and makes awesome top end power. GTP38 is the stock turbo. 5 – 2007 7. Part Number: 739619-5004s (590HP*) The GTP38R turbocharger contains an exclusive ball bearing cartridge for unbeatable response, efficiency, and durability. But if anyone buys a GTP38R then they are risking surge if they add aftermarket sticks, it plainly says that in the fine print on most sites. To get that with the 38r you would need to spend $200 on a wheel, $75 to balance the wheel to the shaft and $80 for the outlet. At your "7200 ft operating altitude" the "optimum operating BP" for your GTP38R is 23-24 psig because depending on the exact values of AFPD & ICPD this BP at 7200 ft requires a CPR=3. It needs to be tweaked a bit to control the EGT's. Power is good. The 38R has a larger 88mm compressor wheel compared to the stock 80mm one. 91 A/R housing for quick spooling and everything you need to install the kit! This setup is HIGHLY recommended over the GTP38R direct drop in or drop in turbos 5221 posts · Joined 2008. 15 Dyno Test Enjoy ~Al. 87mm (56trim). The turbine wheels for both turbos are the same, but the compressor side is completely different. Tows great and helps cool egts and squeak a few more ponies out of a stock injectored motor. So even if a modified TP38 with a slightly larger compressor housing a/r (1. I'm running stock HPOP and stock fuel pump (for now). 1999 - 2003 7. The kc38r comes with a billet wheel and a high flow outlet. 2001 F-350 Supercab short bed, Ford AIC, Buckstop bumper, 2 80 PRO XT Piaa's, 4- 8in Explorer Pro Comp Lights, M12000 winch, K&n Fipk, Garret Gtp38R Turbo, banks power elbow, banks monster exhaust, 6. Typical results are improved throttle response, increased power, reduced smoke, increased boost The California legal version simply has a tighter AR (0. 31mm. #3 · Aug 7, 2012. 3l 4x4 6 spd Ported Heads, Head studs, valve springs, DI Push Rods, DI RR, 38R, Walbro fuel pump, 238cc Injectors from Nate @ Unlimited Diesel and Tuned by Matt @ Gearhead Automotive. Elimination of the thrust bearing eliminates Failures at elevated boost levels. No intention to dyno, its a DD work truck. 3L KC Turbo KC300X Stage 2 63/73 Turbo - 300223. The included 1. The smaller 68mm is built for ’99 to ’03 Ford models, while the 70mm is made for ’94 to ’97 Ford models. 0wg housing for the USA turbo due to the larger turbine wheel. 99. Of course there will be more issues. A Garrett exclusive ball bearing cartridge for unbeatable response, efficiency, and durability. What did change my mileage was slowing down to about 60 on the interstate, but my truck is kinda heavy at 9k, which is as empty as it gets. Horsepower increases from 50-75hp and mileage increase from the more efficient single shot 132 posts · Joined 2004. My truck with stock turbo blows black smoke very easily below 1,500 RPM. 2. sorry no tq value (dyno day) 300cc/200% nozzle T500 hpop. 2002 F-250 Lariat 4x4 crew-cab short-bed automatic, lots of stuff from DI Performance (Diesel Innovations)713/984-9441, Terminator hpop, ATS trans, and some good help from Chris Pitre at Pitre Automotive of Lafayette, LA 337/945-8049 (and a few other great sponsors) pm me for any details; Best time on 37's = 13. But what REALLY caught my attention is a gentlemen on another forum posted Dyno #'s of his 7. I am still on the original injectors and HPOP. The 7. 5 F-250 7. Php hydra chip PHP tuned! 4" exhaust, stock turbo (ww2, turbomaster wastage actuator, gutted ebpv), FRX, 160/30 sticks SB 1939-CB single clutch, home brew water setup for when i'm pulling hay through the mountains. 0 vs 1. Also remember that RPM can play a major factor. I just bought a water pump from a well known vendor that was advertised as Ford OEM with a ford part number. In stock form, this pump is known to supply 40 to 45 psi worth of fuel pressure to the injectors, even though 7. -5" TB into 6" miter. Anyone dyno their truck before and after with stock injectors? Upgrade your 1999. 3L segment), which has an inducer diameter of 66 mm, and an exducer We strictly wanted this to be a bolt-on test. Water could be a good "saftey" mod. -Isspro's in A-pillar. . I'm sure it would spool even quicker if I had the ww2 but even with the stock wheel it spools very quick. 15 housing isn't necessarily going to make you any more power. Max EBP - 52 PSI. As many of you know, my stock turbo is takin a crap, so ideally I'd rather upgrade. The 1. It gets sketchy above that number due to the other variables that are involved with HP levels much above 550. Today on the way home just stopped running at 55mph. BD Diesel Performance’s Turbo Thruster II GTP38 for the 7. GTP38R is the upgraded drop-in replacement, and is a ball bearing turbo. DEI’s Titanium Turbo Shield, part # 010176, was custom designed to fit the GTP38R to reduce turbo lag, improve HP and add thermal protection for long-lasting performance. The GTP38R turbo, developed for the F-Series Power Stroke diesel equipped engine, greatly improves HP but can generate excessive radiant heat under the hood. 0 wg, 1. 3L Power Stroke Diesel - Talk me out of a KC38R - Here's the truck. 5-03 7. but dyno operator was fine testing my assumption of truck being faster on lower tune. 238cc 80% nozzle 450-520HP. You will see in the dyno graphs that we also ran a stock OEM turbo and Garrett ball bearing gtp38r all with 180/30 injectors. so many people automatically suggest the Gtp38R and don't think beyond that because Garrett has been around longer. '99 F-350 CC SB Lariat 4x4 Auto -DI chip-GTP38R-BPV delete-Zoodad-Suncoast tugger trans-6. You need some fuel for the turbo to take advantage of. -Recon smoked cab lights. Once boost is above about 3psi and you put her on the floor the boost needle shoots to 30-33 in no time. The stage3 238cc and turbo package deal is good for up to 500-525hp. The 38r compressor wheel exducer is 88mm and the inducer is 65. 250cc 100% nozzle 470-575HP. 3, ZF6, 4x4, 3. Hybrid injectors are called "hybrid" because they use a larger 1999. DieselSite's new line of Billet Wicked Wheels - WW2 Series - now have Superior Surge Protection PLUS PERFORMANCE! The only name that matters in aftermarket c Thanks so much for your input- I was hoping to her from someone that actually had the 63/68. 3L Power Stroke (F-250 | F-350 | Excursion)SEMA Certified – Emissions Compliance SC-GRT01-0005. The truck also has a 6 position chip but the trans parameters aren't very good on the tunes that are on it and it made less power than the Predator did. The problem is in the tuning. 0L, and 6. If looking for power and performance buy a ported housing. 1) Am I going to notice any more power with the stock injectors? I have a dp-tuner, intake, exhaust and I will be doing some stage 2's in the near future. 4L Power Stroke engines have a loyal following for both #3 · Nov 23, 2014 I decided to skip the ww2 on the 38r to see how I liked it. #2 · Sep 9, 2009. 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